Attachment A July 29, 2004
Meeting of the Monterey
Peninsula Water Management District Board of Directors (MPWMD) Questions and
Answers re the Coastal Water Project and the North Monterey County
Desalination Project |
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Coastal Water Project |
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Questions asked by MPWMD Board of Directors |
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Responses from California American Water and Monterey County
Water Resources Agency Representatives |
1. |
How
soon will cost estimates be developed that will assess the impact on water
rates? |
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Cost
estimates are presently being developed.
Do not have an answer at this time.
Should have a response in a month or two. |
2. |
After
permits are obtained, how long will it take to construct the desalination
facilities? |
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Permits
will be obtained by fall of 2006. The
plant should be operational, including the pipeline within 2 to 2 ˝ years. |
3. |
Utilization
of the intake and outfall at the Duke Energy (Duke) plant will adversely
effect the Moss Landing Sanctuary environment. Will you upgrade the system in order to protect threatened organisms? |
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We
propose to use the present intake and outfall, including the 316 permit and
the NPDES permit for intake.
Presently, detailed modeling of bring impacts to marine life are
underway. Results show that the
impacts of brine discharge are not highly measurable because the percentage
of brine in the Moss Landing harbor intake water is naturally lower than that
of the ocean water where the outfall is located. Ultimately, additional mitigations may be needed. The sooner the impacts and associated
mitigations can be determined, the sooner we can figure that into the cost of
the project. We are also looking at
the feasibility of HDD wells, similar to the MPWMD proposal in order to
mitigate the impacts from intake. |
4. |
What
is the status of an Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) between Monterey County
and Cal-Am. Would Monterey County
consider working with Pajaro/Sunny Mesa Community Services District (P/SM)? |
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We
hope to bring a framework of a substantive agreement between Cal-Am and
Monterey County to the Board of Supervisors next month. Sometime in the future, one project should
be selected. If we can build a better
project that is cheaper and provides a solution, we are willing to work with
P/SM or any other agency. |
5. |
Do
you envision aquifer storage and recovery (ASR) as a storage component of
your project? |
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ASR
would function as storage for water that can be used during periods of peak
demand. Also, if there is a power
outage at the Duke Moss Landing power plant, water stored from ASR could be
utilized. Reservoirs will be installed to mitigate such a situation, but ASR
will also be needed. |
6. |
How
much water would the desalination plant produce in the beginning stages of
operation? |
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Approximately
1,300 acre-feet (AF) at the beginning.
The first element will be 10,000 AF needed by the Monterey
Peninsula. So the first increment of
water will be 1,300 AF for the MPWMD, but if an emergency occurs the water
could be pumped for treatment as a fall back. |
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Coastal Water Project |
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Questions asked by MPWMD Board of Directors |
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Responses from California American Water and Monterey County
Water Resources Agency Representatives |
7. |
What
is the timeline for your pilot project? |
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The
pilot plant could be built and operational by January 2005. It will operate for one year in order to
analyze water quality results and meet other objectives. Cal-Am and Duke
Energy will build that pilot plant. |
8. |
Do
you plan to produce and deliver more water than the first increment of 13,000
AF? What do you foresee as full production? |
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The
engineering design and environmental review will include elements shown on
slide 11 for ultimate delivery of 20,000 AF of water. Although the project is expandable to
20,000 AF, we must work with various jurisdictions and potential participating
organizations to determine how big the transmission pipeline needs to be. |
9. |
If
the first phase of the project will be 13,000 AF for the MPWMD, this District
may pay for a major part of the research and development process and
environmental review for the project.
As the project is expanded to provide water to other users, how will
the cost be adjusted? |
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Some
increments of the cost will have to be figured on a pro-rata share appointed
to the subsequent stakeholders. A
funding mechanism must be developed to insure those costs are not passed onto
the MPWMD. The response to your
question has not been fully developed yet. |
10. |
How
were the demand projections for each future stakeholder shown on slide 11
developed ? |
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The
MPWMD provided the demand projections they acquired from the jurisdictions
regarding their future water needs. |
11. |
Will
your cost estimates include the incremental cost paid by the MPWMD as
compared to the other entities that will benefit from the project? |
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That
information will be developed in the future when discussions are conducted
with other potential project partners. |
12. |
Will
an Environmental Impact Statement (EIS) be required for the Coastal Water
Project? If so, which federal agency
would be the lead and when would that agency become involved? |
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We
do not anticipate the need for a NEPA document, but if one is required, the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers will be
the lead agency. Though we may not
need an EIS, the permitting process will be expensive, complicated and take a
lot of work. We want this project in
the hands of the public. The
permitting process is the most daunting element of this project. |
13. |
How
will you address concerns regarding interruptions in the California power
grid. What provisions would be made
to prevent interruption of service due to power outages? |
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We
propose construction of storage at the treatment plant and construction of a reservoir at the
southern portion of the project. ASR
would be a key component to deal with a power outage. |
14. |
Do
you anticipate that the project will be required to obtain approval from the
Monterey Bay National Marine Sanctuary? |
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Yes,
and we are moving in that direction. |
15. |
If
it is determined that two projects cannot be developed at Moss Landing, why
would your project be the best one to build. |
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We
have assembled a good team to develop a solution to the Monterey County’s
water supply problems. P/SM also has
some good ideas and elements to their proposal. We will continue to move forward and bring you a well-designed,
environmentally sound and economically feasible project. |
16. |
When
do you anticipate filing an application with the California Public Utilities
Commission (CPUC), and when will public hearings will be conducted? |
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The
application will be filed by August 30, 2004. Hearings have not yet been scheduled. The PEA will be submitted in March 2005 and then the CPUC will
conduct its own CEQA process.
Hearings will be conducted during that period. |
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Coastal Water Project |
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Questions asked by MPWMD Board of Directors |
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Responses from California American Water and Monterey County
Water Resources Agency Representatives |
17. |
When
will you know if you have a commitment from Duke regarding use of their
property for a full-scale project?
What if they will not allow you to utilize their facilities? |
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We
have discussed the pilot plant with Duke, and they have been agreeable to
construction at their site. The
agreement is in the final phases.
Regarding the full-scale plant, Duke’s major condition is that we
should not impact its permitted intake and outfall. We have discussed this with the Regional Water Quality Control
Board (RWQCB). We have agreed to take
water out of Duke’s outfall and re-inject it into that area. Our permit will be a separate permit with
the RWQCB and will not impact Duke’s permit.
Duke wants assurance that the public supports the project, and that it
is good for the community. We
anticipate that Duke will agree to allow us to use their property when all
environmental work is complete and approvals have been obtained. Until that time, they will proceed with
negotiations in good faith. We do not
anticipate that Duke will not allow us to utilize their site. We are also evaluating other sites. |
18. |
What
would be the role of Prudencia, the Spanish desalination specialist and RWE
subsidiary, in your process? |
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Pridesa
is one of the world’s largest designer and operators of desalination
plants. They have 40 plants in Spain
and other parts of the world. Pridesa
will provide technical expertise and system design for the project. We are working closely with Pridesa now on
design of the desalination facilities, cost estimates and schedules. |
19. |
The
MPWMD has already undertaken environmental review of a desalination project
in Sand City that could produce 8,000 acre-feet of water. How would construction of that project
impact planning and development for the Coastal Water Project? |
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As
we all collectively develop projects, there will come a time when we must
make a choice. We must figure out
which project solves the problem, is environmentally sound and cost effective
for our constituents. The PEA will analyze a desalination plant at Sand City,
supplemented by other plants so that we come up with the total water
needed. We are also looking at a
potential site in Marina that could utilize water extracted from wells in
that field, possibly HDD wells, and brine would be discharged into the
regional water treatment plant. You
should advise us of other alternatives to consider in the analysis. |
20. |
How
would community support for your project be measured? |
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It
will vary from jurisdiction to jurisdiction.
In some cases, the boards of directors of water districts will express
that support. In some areas, policy
directors would make the decision. It
is not clear if there will be a public vote. |
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Questions asked by Members of the Public |
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1. |
Under
what conditions would you cooperate with the MPWMD to finish the Sand City
proposal? |
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We
do not have a response to that. We
are still working to determine the best project to meet community needs. |
2. |
Do
you want community support from the County of Monterey or Moss Landing? |
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In
order for Duke to be comfortable with the project, we want support from all
affected communities. |
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Coastal Water Project |
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Questions asked by MPWMD Board of Directors |
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Responses from California American Water and Monterey County
Water Resources Agency Representatives |
3. |
What
if Cal-Am purchases Duke? |
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One
of the key elements of the Coastal Water Project is that it would be
designed, built, operated and then transferred to the public. This project needs to be in public hands. |
4. |
Can
the State Water Resources Control Board (SWRCB) limit on production from the
Carmel River basin be changed? Can we
convince the SWRCB to modify Order 95-10? |
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(Response
from David Laredo, MPWMD Counsel.)
Theoretically, the SWRCB could change the order; however, there has
been no indication from the SWRCB that it would change the production limit. |
5. |
There
are several public agencies involved with developing these desalination
projects. How far into the future is
public money being committed? The
cost might be lower if a combination of projects was selected early in the
process. |
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We
must come to a decision as soon as possible so the cost can be minimized and
a project can be developed. |
6. |
What
is the status of 2,964 AF of water set aside for Cal-Am on Table 13 of SWRCB
Decision 1632? |
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(Question
answered by David Laredo, MPWMD Counsel.)
Decision 1632 granted the MPWMD water rights to construct the New Los
Padres Dam. In Decision 1632, Table
13 recognized the priority of certain
property owners to water rights if the dam were constructed and Carmel River
flow conditions were met. Cal-Am is
one of the applicants listed on Table 13.
Those water rights can only be granted if flow conditions on the
Carmel River are met or measures are taken to mitigate for the environmental
impacts to the river caused by using that water right. Cal-Am has a place on Table 13 but does
not have a right to use that 2,964 AF of water at this time. |
7. |
Please
clarify the meaning of the statement of slide No. 7, “item be supported by
the relevant communities.” Is this a
vote of the people, city counsel, or mayors? |
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It
will vary from jurisdiction to jurisdiction.
Policy makers will make some of the decisions. There is still a huge
amount of public outreach that must be done.
It is not clear yet if there will be a public vote or not. |
8. |
How
long will the proposed new water supply project fulfill community needs? How long will it take to reach the
capacity of the Seaside aquifer, and to replace water taken from the Carmel
River? |
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We
are planning to meet the water needs of existing lots of record and remodels
in the MPWMD over a 20-year period.
In addition, 2,400 AF is needed for the Fort Ord Reuse Plan and we
could also provide water for other areas in Monterey County. MPWMD staff is better qualified to respond
to questions about the Carmel River. |
9. |
If
Cal-Am and Monterey County form a partnership, who will pay for the
project? |
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The
cost of the project must be disclosed to the public. The ratepayers will be part of the
equation for payment of the project.
Cal-Am is working closely with Pridesa to identify project costs and
those estimates should be available for review within one or two months. |
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North Monterey
County Desalination Project |
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Questions asked by MPWMD Board of Directors |
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Responses from Pajaro/Sunny Mesa Community Services District
Representatives |
1. |
What
measures do you plan to take to reduce the environmental impacts of seawater
intake? Are you looking at HDD wells? |
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From
the beginning of the process we have endeavored to minimize environmental
impacts. The RWQCB approved the
intake used by Duke for water to cool their operations. It is premature to assume that slant
drilling would be the environmentally preferred method of intake at Moss
Landing, since no analysis of that alternative at the Moss Landing Harbor
area has been done. In addition,
there may be issues related to groundwater rights of nearby property
owners. |
2. |
What
authorization do you have from your Board as follow-up to this
presentation? What if Cal-Am
approached you about a joint project? |
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P/SM
is prepared to develop a joint powers agreement with the MPWMD. P/SM representatives have not met with
Cal-Am representatives. |
3. |
What
is the target production goal for the proposed facility? |
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We
estimate 3,500 to 4,500 AF of water. We are interested in developing a
project that meets the long-term needs of general plans and coastal plans,
possibly up to 5,000 AF total. This
project will require a permit for stream crossings at Moro Cojo and
Tembladero sloughs, and drilling under the Salinas river. P/SM has easements
for most of the crossings and has been offered easements on others. P/SM anticipates drilling under Tembladero
Slough and the Salinas River because they have easements on both sides. The
direct impact on the Salinas River will be minimal, and the stream
alternation permit will be minimal. |
4. |
If
the MPWMD did partner with you on construction of a project, would you build
a plant as large as the proposed Coastal Water Project? |
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P/SM
is prepared to build your desalination plant. Our planning began prior to Cal-Am’s announcement of its
project. We are prepared to work with
the MPWMD if it is interested in resolving the water shortage by a method
P/SM perceives as most cost effective. |
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Does
the P/SM sphere of influence include the Castroville artichoke growing area
where there are large production wells that have been intruded with seawater? Has there been a discussion of developing
a seawater desalination plant at the regional sewer plant utilizing its
outfall? |
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No,
those areas are not within the sphere of influence of this project. They are in the Castroville Water
District. Those areas receive water
from the Salinas Valley Water Project and the Monterey Regional Water
Pollution Control Agency reclaimed wastewater project. The issue of utilizing the regional sewer
plant has not been discussed with P/SM. |
6. |
If
P/SM moved ahead on a project, how would it be financed? |
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Revenue
bonds or certificates of participation would finance the project. If a joint project between the MPWMD and
P/SM were developed, it would also be funded by one of those methods. |
7. |
If
the MPWMD constructs the project proposed at Sand City to provide 8,000 AF of
water for the Monterey Peninsula, how would that effect your ability to
finance your project and provide additional water to the MPWMD needed for our
growth factor? |
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The
goal of P/SM is to meet the water needs of its constituents. Cal Am has had a legal obligation to
remedy over-pumping in the Carmel River for the past ten years. The MPWMD must decide if it wants to fund
and construct its project for 8,000 AF of water, and then spend another $40
million to fund a pipeline that will bring an additional 2,000 AF of water
from Moss Landing to the Monterey Peninsula.
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North Monterey
County Desalination Project |
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Questions asked by MPWMD Board of Directors |
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Responses from Pajaro/Sunny Mesa Community Services District
Representatives |
8. |
How
large a plant do you plan to build?
Will it be constructed in phases? |
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The
project could deliver approximately 21,000 AF if there is an agreement to
work with your District. That would
include four modules or trains. |
9. |
Is
ASR a component of your proposed project? |
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The
MPWMD has a need for an ASR project.
P/SM is only interested in delivering water to the area shown on the
slides. If MPWMD has an ASR project,
that is your responsibility. |
10. |
What
is the present condition of the National Refractories intake and outfall? |
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Both
are permitted. The intake is
operational. The outfall is used by
the Moss Landing Marine Laboratory, but it is cracked and covered with a
sleeve. The condition of the outfall
must be addressed in terms of repairs, but the permit is in effect. The project must be approved by the
Monterey Bay Marine Sanctuary as part of the NPDES process. |
11. |
Has
there been any discussion regarding a joint powers agreement between PSM,
MPWMD, MCWRA and the Marina Coast Water District? |
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No,
but we have spoken with general managers of the Marina Coast Water District
and the Fort Ord Reuse Authority.
Both indicated that P/SM should make presentations to their Boards of
Directors. |
12. |
Does
the energy recovery component of the desalination project lengthen the
construction period? |
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No. |
13. |
Could
you have a project operational within the same time line as projected for the
Coastal Water Project? |
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A
time line has not yet been developed.
Costs are being developed. |
14. |
This
could become a regional project, so all parties should get together to
discuss it. Do you have cost
estimates? |
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Preliminary
estimates are that the overall cost for 21,000 AF would be between $135 and
$155 million, which would cover plant site improvements, the pipeline,
regulatory processing, environmental consultants, engineering costs and legal
fees. The actual costs cannot be
determined until bids are received. |
15. |
Are
mitigation costs included in your preliminary estimate for the 21,000 AF
project? |
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Until
the size of the project is determined, the cost of mitigation measures cannot
be accurately determined. The
pipeline design was developed to reduce the need for mitigation measures. |
16. |
Do
you have a timeline as to when cost information will be available? |
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Once
the plant size is determined, more information will be available. |
17. |
What
is the difference in the timeline between financing with certificates of
participation and revenue bonds? |
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Normally
the timing is similar. Detailed information
can be provided by bond counsel. |
18. |
Could
you develop a timeline for the EIR process and other approvals similar to
slide 17 presented by the Coastal Water Project proponents? |
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Yes. |
19. |
Would
the timeline be based on the date when a partnership might be developed? |
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If
the MPWMD Board of Directors is interested in working with P/SM on that
timeline, that could be done. |
20. |
What
progress will have been made one year from now? |
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Assuming
PSM would be lead agency, and that a joint powers agency is formed, a
certified EIR could be complete and hearings could be in process for the P/SM
Board to authorize a project. |
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North Monterey
County Desalination Project |
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Questions asked by MPWMD Board of Directors |
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Responses from Pajaro/Sunny Mesa Community Services District
Representatives |
21. |
Will
your project need an EIS? |
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No. |
22. |
Is
that because your pipeline is proposed to be placed underneath the Salinas
River? |
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If
you avoid the sensitive environmental areas, there is no need to prepare an
EIS. The pipeline right of way has
been designed so federal ESA issues are avoided. |
23. |
If
the California Coastal Commission and National Marine Fisheries Service will
not allow the construction of two desalination projects at Moss Landing, why
do you believe your project is best? |
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The
water resources in Monterey County are public resources and should be
administered by public agencies. They
should be utilized for economic development and low-income housing at the
lowest cost. |
24. |
Are
you saying that you plan a small project that could be enlarged if you have
partners? |
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Yes. |
25. |
Would
drilling under the Salinas River in order to lay the pipeline extend the
timeline of the project and increase the cost? |
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Part
of the cost of the Coastal Water Project is to rebuild some of Cal-Am’s
existing pipelines. Our project will
not be subsidizing that cost. Our
pipeline is shorter. By drilling
under the Salinas River we avoid three to five stream crossing permits. The cost to obtain environmental approvals
for stream crossings could be higher than the cost to drill under the Salinas
River. The underground pipeline will
also be more secure and less likely to crack in the event of an earthquake
than a pipeline that is hung under a bridge that broke in the 1989
earthquake. |
26. |
If
you size the plant to meet the water needs of the MPWMD, MCWD, the Fort Ord
Reuse Authority and your constituents needs, how will that impact the
existing NPDES permits? Is the NPDES
permit sufficient to meet the combined demand of all jurisdictional needs? |
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The
existing NPDES permit allows discharge of about 70,000 AF per year. The amount of intake is essentially the
same as the outfall. Theoretically
the present outfall would be sufficient to meet the combined needs. But an analysis has not been prepared. |
27. |
Are
you prepared to move forward on preparation of preliminary engineering
studies, environmental review, and CEQA review for a larger project so that
other districts could get information from those studies and come to a
conclusion as to whether or not to partner with you? |
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Would
your Board be willing to do that?
P/SM may not want to spend money to design a project that a potential
partner might walk away from. |
28. |
If
a water project is developed and the water is delivered into the MPWMD boundaries,
what kind of control will the MPWMD have? |
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(Question
answered by David Laredo, MPWMD Counsel.)
The MPWMD is authorized by law to serve as owner or regulator. As owner, the MPWMD would be an operator
and have a proprietary role either as owner of the desalination plant, mains
or an ASR project. The ownership role
could also be as a contracting party, so the MPWMD would buy the water from
the project. Absent the ownership
role, the MPWMD as regulator means that any operator of a water distribution
system shall obtain a permit from the MPWMD before it extends or expands into
our boundaries. For instance,
importing water or expanding the supply within our boundaries would require a
permit from the MPWMD. |
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North Monterey
County Desalination Project |
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Questions asked by MPWMD Board of Directors |
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Responses from Pajaro/Sunny Mesa Community Services District
Representatives |
29. |
Can
the MPWMD finance a project that is outside of its boundaries? |
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(Question
answered by David Laredo, MPWMD Counsel.)
The MPWMD can finance our role in a project, as long as we are paying
a pro-rata share. |
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Questions asked by Members of the Public |
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1. |
Has
the County of Monterey or any other agency provided you with criteria that
will be used to judge which desalination project is preferred? Do you believe the process will be helped
or harmed if clear criteria are not issued?
How much longer can you go on without the cost information for presentation
to the voters? |
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P/SM
requested the opportunity to present our project to the MPWMD. Criteria have not been developed. We have a good idea about what the cost
will be to build a project to meet the needs of our constituents. We have been dependant on other agencies
to provide details on their water needs.
The longer we continue in this manner, the greater concern we have
about meeting the needs of our constituents. |
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