EXHIBIT 2-A
Special Meeting for
MRWPCA Board and
Ad Hoc Water Committee
MRWPCA
Board Members Present:
Lou Calcagno, Chair
Gloria De La Rosa, Vice Chair
Ramiro Cortez Boronda County Sanitation District
Ron Stefani Castroville Community Services
District
Joseph Russell Del Rey Oaks
Kenneth Nishi MCWD Board Member
Libby
Chris Orman Moss Landing County Sanitation
District
Dan -Cort
Dave Pendergrass
Ralph Rubio
MRWPCA Staff:
Keith Israel General Manager
Brad Hagemann Assistant General Manager
Public
Officials
Dave Potter Supervisor,
Dan Burns Director, MCWD Board
Dave Hart Director, MCWRA Board
Steve Collins Director, MCWRA Board
Staff:
Lew Bauman Administrative Officer,
Curtis Weeks General Manager, MCWRA
Jim Heitzman General Manager, MCWD
Fred Meurer City Manager,
Ray Corpuz City Manager,
Carl Niizawa Deputy City Engineer,
Members
Absent:
Bruce Delgado Mayor, Marina
Transcript
of Meeting:
Lou
Calcagno - This is a special meeting
of the MRWPCA Board of Directors and the Ad Hoc Water Committee. You might ask how this meeting got so big. At the last meeting of the MRWPCA Board of
Directors, we took action approved by the Board that the Mayors of Monterey
Peninsula and an Ad Hoc Committee of the Regional Board would go ahead and have
a meeting to discuss an ongoing mitigation problem that was being handled
between
Before we get on I will say this and then we will
start the meeting officially. In putting
this together, we’re talking about water.
Basically we’re talking about reclaimed water from the CSIP [Castroville
Seawater Intrusion Project] for the Monterey Peninsula and when we talk of
Monterey Peninsula we’re talking Marina, Fort Ord, Seaside, Del Rey Oaks, Sand
City, Pacific Grove, Monterey, and etc.
With that being said, we have plenty of reclaimed water. The farmers have been using approximately
7,000-8,000 acres [acre feet] of reclaimed water a year for the summer
water. All the winter water goes in the
ocean. With that being said, there is
plenty of winter water that we can either find places to store, or we can
either go a step further and inject it into aquifer, or we can take care of a
lot of the needs of the Monterey Peninsula with golf courses, parks, the universities,
cemeteries, the fair grounds, you name it, with reclaimed water. The present time we’re using reclaimed water
to grow 12,000 acres of crops and there hasn’t been a problem. We’ve been doing that for 10 years. I’m sure we can irrigate a few golf courses
and we wouldn’t create any major problems, or a cemetery, or fair grounds, or Window
on the Bay. Whatever it might be it
would free up potable water. With that,
you need to get some people together and what we have here today is the Water Agency
of Monterey County which has been very instrumental in putting together
projects in which basically is a custodian of the reclaimed water, although the
regional agency [MRWPCA] is the processing agency that’s been processing that
water. And of course,
At this time I’m going to turn it over to our Chief
Executive Officer for the
Lou
Calcagno - Are there any public
comments before we get started?
Jan Shriner
- Thank you for this opportunity. I’m Jan Shriner. I’m part of the Marina Public Works
Commission. I’m sorry that more of the
Lew Bauman - It’s a pleasure, Board members and Ad Hoc Water
Committee members, to have the opportunity to address you this evening. Supervisors Potter and Calcagno offered me
relief from our tedious budget meetings and this was what they offered me this
evening.
Honestly, for me this is a great pleasure. My background is in water resources and it is
a pleasure to have a few moments to address you this evening. For the members of the public to clarify and
I believe your chair clarified the purpose of the meeting, but specifically the
intent of tonight’s meeting is to hear presentations from your staff and to initiate
a dialog that would lead to development of several integrated water supply
projects for Northern Monterey County and ultimately to agreements to implement
those projects between MRWPCA, MCWD, as well as the MCWRA. In preparing for this evening I was
reflecting that in
As most of you know, Cal Am has submitted an
application back in 2004 to the California Public Utilities Commission to
implement the Coastal Water Project. Of
course that project would supply 12,500 AFY for urban users on the
Curtis
Weeks - One of the challenges that I
think we’ve had here in the last 2-3 years is really getting our brains around
what this integrated regional project entails.
It’s been kind of squishy.
Tonight my intent here is to put a little bit more focus on the
elements, to be able to talk about them, to talk about some of the
institutional issues that we need to resolve.
Some of those institutional elements are managed and then with hope that
we can all agree to get these agreements in place and moving forward with the
projects.
We’ve got a regional project that consists of a
number of pieces. It will have a
The California American Water has got three elements
in their current EIR. I recall a meeting
with Supervisor Potter and one of the commissioners when we first started
looking at the desal plant. We had a
great discussion with Ms. Kennedy about Kurt Showing and it was a pretty good
discussion. Out of that the PUC helped
us develop a regional flavor to the projects that Cal Am was developing and so
what we’ve got now is a two-pronged approach from California American Water
that’s an ocean desal at Moss Landing and then North Maria brackish water desal
plant primarily aimed at bringing water back to the Monterey Peninsula. The third element that has been identified is
the regional project. In the EIR it
covers impacts. So our comments and that
process is ruling out ultimately with an EIR to be finalized sometime later
this year. In addition there is a PUC
process, a decision that would give CalAm the opportunity and frankly through
this Notice of Public Conveyance more less a license to build a project. Well, we want to be in position to initiate
all the local agreements and the local control to develop a regional project
together.
Today there are a couple of elements that are already
in place in terms of integrated projects.
Over the last several years the MPWMD has been developing an
So by pumping the small amount of intruded
groundwater, it should improve the groundwater quality. There are a number of models that have been
done; it provides the opportunity for that groundwater to be managed by MCWRA. Our Board of Directors has given us the
direction to move forward with that institutional work to get that moving. The desalted water can then be delivered to
MCWD in areas that they currently serve and again it meets the requirements
that we have for keeping our groundwater basin [water] in the
What’s ahead of us?
Well we’ve got this draft EIR that’s out today. It’s actually due in terms of comments on the
15th of April. Then in the
same time period there will be a final EIR sometime this year and this PUC
decision. Our intents here tonight is to
get us all here together so that we can be ahead of this PUC decision, bring a
package for our regional project, an integrated package to the PUC, and
essentially keep control of our water resources under our auspices.
Some of those institutional issues we’ve talked a
little bit about. I think one of the key
things for us to consider tonight is that Cal Am has continued to march in this
process from the time they started to look at an ocean water desal out at Moss
Landing to today. They have been focused
on getting a water supply, and they have repeatedly told us and others that
they are looking for water. They don’t
care if they build a project or if somebody else builds a project, they need a
water supply. So we’re going to take
them at that face value. We’ve got a
project that fits their needs, and we need to move forward with getting that
institutional piece in place. We do need
to be cognizant in the fact that they’re marching because of Order 95-10, and
the fact that
We’ve talked a little bit about the definition of the
project. We need to draft some sort of
agreement between Cal Am and MCWD in terms of development of the project. That can either come via some sort of
reimbursement agreement to do the soft work, that’s the engineering up front,
but ultimately some sort of water purchase agreement. We need an agreement between MRWPCA and MCWD
for reject disposal. Then finally in
terms of the supply wells for the project, MCWD and MCWRA need to come together
and figure out a way in which to monitor the groundwater basin and develop the
wells, and then ultimately we’ve got some permitting pieces to be able to
finish. Frankly the permitting stuff is
the easy stuff; it’s getting all these agreements amongst ourselves. The idea is let’s get some direction tonight
and go get those agreements done. I
think those are the agreements that Supervisor Calcagno referred to earlier
tonight.
The other part of this integrated project tonight is recycled
water. Just to summarize where we
are—we’ve got a couple of elements in place.
We’ve got the desal plant out of
We’ve either got something north of 3,000 AF of
winter water and some 1,500 AF for irrigation available to move from the
treatment plant into our urban areas.
You’ve got a pipeline that begins at the treatment plant, runs down
through the former
In addition we should be able to develop a project
where we can work again with Cal Am. Somewhere
at the terminus down here of the former
Just to kind of summarize on the Third Amendment
piece. We do have this Amendment in
place with MRWPCA and ourselves. The
idea, of course, I’ve talked about the 12,000 acres out in Castroville that’s
why the project was developed. Here
you’ve got this, no pun intended, a target-rich environment where you need to
have water and we’ve got some very courageous, focused farmers out there that
have taken that water on for the last 10 years and have been putting it to use. And the good news is that crops still goes to
market and that’s how we’ve always measured success. We do have the availability of about 15,000 AF
of water for irrigation. The offset that
I’ve talked about a little bit is in hand now, and then we also have significant
quantities of winter water. Frankly
we’re not putting it to use out in the fields during winter months, so there is
somewhere north of 3,000 AF that can either go to storage or go to
replenishment. I don’t think we have all
those details worked out, but it is available for additional use. We’ve also got in that Third Amendment cost
formula that even goes so far as to develop the pro-rata debt service element
as well as the operation and maintenance piece.
That’s a key for our agricultural community to make sure and know that
if additional water gets developed, their costs go down. So that’s an important element for them to
consider. Ultimately the amendment
intended for MRWPCA and MCWD to work together. I believe we are at that point and are ready
to do that. So this regional integrated
project requires collaboration and requires a collective effort.
We’ve talked about the elements tonight in terms of
the regional project - it’s a brackish desal in
We need to develop a reject disposal agreement for
the outfall between MCWD and MRWPCA.
That’s a key element in the ability for us to treat brackish water. We need to develop a water purchase agreement
or reimbursement agreement with Cal Am and MCWD, and then finally the three
organizations—MCWD, ourselves, and MRWPCA need to sort out some of the details
on recycled water. Those are the key
pieces. This is the pretty stuff about
all the elements [referring to slide], what needs to happen, and then, Jim, we
get the pretty pictures at the end, and we’re done. Thank you!
Keith
Israel -Thank you, Supervisors,
Mayors, and all the other officials, and the public who are here. Actually Curtis did such a great job and went
through everything; I don’t really have anything to do except to thank Curtis
for putting it all together. I think the
critical message that I got from everything was the importance that we all come
together on this local regional water program and really get that consensus. I think that is so important for us to have
control over all our water supply; and I think we have the outline that’s put
together here for us to do that. For my
perspective it is one thing to work on water projects, but really to me it’s
more fun to build something. We’ve been using
so much time talking with agreements going back and forth, I’d like to see
projects ready for construction. So
that’s where we might go.
I want to see a new water supply, and I think we’ve
got a good plan that’s been outlined here as far as the regional program. I work with other elements that are going to
need this; this is the first part of it.
We’ve identified a lot of other needs that need to go for the
future. Basically in summary, I think
the one suggestion that I would have is maybe we need to have a meeting like
this perhaps annually or some period of time to talk about what we need to do
for the other projects that are out there for the future, so that we can be
sure to meet all of the needs and doing it in a way so that the whole community
supports the effort. Basically that’s
what I suggest and again thank you very much. It’s the first time I’ve seen anything quite
like this, and I think it’s going to be very successful. I’m looking forward to implementing the suggestions.
Jim
Heitzman - Thank you for having us
here tonight.
Lou
Calcagno - Now the procedure is
we’re going to have comments from the Board members and the Ad Hoc
members. When we’re through with our
comments, we’ll open it to the public and then their telling me I’m not
following procedure. We’ll go ahead and
let Public come up at this time. It’s
proper time to do it according to what I’ve been signaled. If not, I’ll close with the Public but I
guarantee we’ll bring it back to you after comments from this body.
Ralph Rubio - This is described as one of the most important
water moments in the recent history, aside from the fact that a dam was turned
down. That was a pretty significant water moment in our history. But to have all the policy makers in one
place talking about the same issue with all the facts presented at the same
time, I think is a guarantee for success.
That way there can be no mistake about what was presented, no different versions;
it’s all the same information for everybody at the same time. I think the idea that we get together behind
the regional project as our own solution to the issues that they saw, rather
than having an overlaid solution for us, is a primary focus. The four agreements that are necessary to
accomplish this are critical to the success of this project and those are the
source water, the brackish and intrusion water.
The agreement between MCWD and MCRWA, then Cal Am and MCWD purchase
agreement, and then MCWD and MRWPCA agreement on the outfall, and then the
3-way agreement between the three agencies on the recycled water taking care of
the basins and the needs of the recycled water throughout the community not
just Marina and Seaside but on further into Del Rey Oaks, the County east in
the Highway 68 corridor and well as Monterey and as far as we can get that
water out there to meet the needs and free up potable water for the things that
we really want to do.
So I’m just really hardened to see everybody here
working towards the same thing, and I look forward to walking out of here today
with a substantial agreement and direction to our staffs to hammer an agreement
out - a contract that we can all live with - within 30 days. So we can go to the PUC and say “hey we’ve
got the package, all you gotta do now is move us forward.”
Lou
Calcagno - (talking to MCWRA) - We’ve
got two of you here and would one of you want to give your comments? I know that water is important to the
Steve
Collins - Thank you. That’s a good lead in and I’m pleased to be
here tonight and I’m very heartened to see us working collaboratively. I have felt for an awfully long time that
there are solutions out there to the water issues and that if we work together
on a regional basis as a community we can solve those problems. The
Lou
Calcagno - I think that was an
overview and everyone around this table has to understand that any time we’re
talking about
Kenneth
Nishi – Yes, agree with Mr. Collins
about working together in this area. It’s
a regional problem. I think
Lou
Calcagno - Joe Russell, representing
the Agency (MRWPCA) and working on this project now for I don’t know how
long.
Joe Russell - Thank you very much, Supervisor. I’ll just be very brief. I think one of the things that strike me the
most here is, I think, the cooperation that I think the MCWRA is coming forth
with and that is to provide additional water to MRWCPA which, of course, would
enable the RUWAP to go forward and also the Groundwater Replenishment Program. Without the County’s cooperation here, we’re
up the creek, so to speak, and I think that’s what I want to emphasize. I appreciate the cooperation being shown here
by
Gloria De
La Rosa - It’s a regional problem;
we all want water, but I think what we’re hearing . . . . I’m so glad that all of us are here and the
collaboration and it’s coming forward and we need to have this regional
agreement. I thank you, Supervisor
Calcagno, for bringing this forward and just all of us coming together tonight
to move forward.
Lou
Calcagno - Ron goes all the way back
to the beginning of the project and when the CSIP project . . .
Ron Stefani -Yes, and being a life-long member of Castroville of
course, lots to grow up around me. Being
on this Board, MRWPCA, and really getting intently into what the issues are, we
all have to remember that we all represent the tax payer and the rate
payer. I think decisions sometimes seem
to be tough and agreements, but we’re always going to have to make the most
cost-effective, economical decision; and that’s why, I think, there’s a new
spirit here because we’re starting to realize that that’s the direction we’ve
got to go. We’ve got to utilize the
cheapest water we can to its fullest and then the desal water is a little bit
more expensive, but we’re going to need it.
I think that’s said. I also don’t
want to forget about the
Chuck Della
Sala - Well it’s a pleasure to be
here this evening and to hear everybody speak in such unison. I feel like we should all hold hands and sing
‘kumbahya’ because it looks like we’re going in the right direction. Two comments and then a question. I appreciate the comments regarding reclaimed
water/recycled water, that is critical to the
Dave
Pendergrass - One thing in Curtis’
presentation, he had everyone on a level playing field and that’s not been
seen. We’ve all gone different ways
talking different solutions, being involved over the years, and it’s good for
the Supervisor and Chair of our Board. The time is of essence and it’s a matter
of if we’re all on a level playing field here.
That’s what I’ve seen tonight and I think that’s a good start. With that frame of mind and everyone involved
here, we can get it done. And there’s so
much at stake here for the County. The
downturn of the economy and all of these things happening, the funding for all
that we’re talking about and the cost of the rate payers and everyone concerned,
we can do it if we pull together. I
think the County has all the water resources and avenues that we can use, if we
just pull together. And tonight, again,
Curtis’ presentation looked like a level playing field and if we keep it that
way, we’ll get it done.
Libby
Dan Cort - Well I feel, as does Libby, that this is a great
opportunity to work together and we are doing that locally, and we’re working
with
Chris Orman – There is a lot of wisdom here tonight. We’re getting to the point where we’re going
to watch another 3,000 AF of water going into the ocean this winter. And while we debate how to desalinate it and
put it back into the pipes to be using it and I think you’re the one who said
that at our last meeting, Mr. Supervisor.
So what is going on here is important.
Lou
Calcagno - Well, let’s hope we can
all get that feeling that cooperation is the only way we’re going to win this
battle.
Dan Burns - Well, let me just say this. In 1973 we were talking about a Regional
Treatment Plant. We didn’t start
operating until 1990, so I hope this doesn’t take that long. I actually worked there for 28 years so I
know how it operates. I’m just
excited. We keep saying 30 days, but I
know what happens when you leave these meetings, nobody knows who is supposed
to call who. I’d like to see some sort
of timeline set up that is some sort of chart or whatever. We’re ready to talk to anybody, anytime so we
can get these things done.
Lou
Calcagno - I think we’re ready to do
that. With that I’m going to Supervisor
Potter. Have a few words?
Dave Potter - I’d be saying the same thing, but I will say that
I think last time I checked, Mayor Pendergrass might be the most senior elected
official these days in local government. We certainly sat around a long, long
time hoping we could all get together and find a solution. I’m extremely pleased to be here tonight; and
hopefully during the balance of my 10 years in local government, we’ll actually
see something happen in the world of water.
That would be very refreshing.
Lou
Calcagno - With that, I’m going to
be honest with you. We worked this
afternoon and we did come up with some language for a motion, unless someone .
. . . We’re going to put the motion on
the table before we have Public Comment.
This way we’re discussing, and everything is on the table when we
discuss it.
I want to make a motion to select the Regional Water
Project as our solution and recommend implementation of the institutional
agreements identified in the presentation.
The source water between MCWD and MCRWA, the purchase agreement between
Cal Am and MCWD, the outfall agreement with MCWD and MRWPCA, and the important
one, the three way agreement covering recycled water, winter water, and
groundwater replenishment between MCWRA, MRWPCA, and MCWD, and the formation of
a Negotiating Committee consisting of the Executive Director, the Board Chair,
and a Board Member from each of the respected agencies, and a neutral counsel,
an attorney to construct the agreement so that we don’t run into any road
blocks.
Libby
Ralph Rubio - Okay, a neutral counsel to construct the agreement
within. . . .
Lou Calcagno -They should start constructing and working within
the next 10 days. The group should be
working. Now making up this group, just
so we know it would probably be
Ralph Rubio - I will include that timeline in the motion for the
initial meeting with an expectation of a completed agreement in 30 days.
Libby
Lou
Calcagno - With that we’ll leave the
motion on the floor, and we’ll open it up to the public.
Janet Brennan - I’ve been attending the regional meetings for over
a year and this is certainly an important event. I do have a question. This is the first time the Groundwater Replenishment
Program has been included in Phase 1.
It’s not part of Phase 1 in the DEIR; and if the Groundwater Replenishment
Program is agreed upon and is successful, it’s my understanding that that will reduce
the size of the desal plan. So if
someone could respond to that, I would appreciate it. Thank you.
Curtis
Weeks - I think that the groundwater
replenishment piece is certainly an issue that we need to work out and resolve. And if it does indeed work into this
integrated approach, then it could result in a smaller desal plan. But both of the technologies that we’re
talking about essentially removing salts, whether that is from recycled water
or from brackish water supply. So those
pieces I think are interchangeable. The
supply water is the issue.
George
Riley - Citizen Republic Water. I have two points to make. One is that the agreements that might be
developed are already dealing with some infrastructure that’s been paid for by
the public, and I know that each agency that manages and is responsible for the
infrastructure will want to be reimbursed for some fashion. My point is that the ultimate buyer of the
water is going to be the customers and the rates that are designed in this
process for water including Cal Am are going to fall on the rate payers. I hope that you can surely see the value of
water wheeling which is using existing infrastructure and the outfall and so on
that have already been paid for that the allocation of cost and so on are
fair. Fair to the rate payer but also
fair between the agencies because one agency shouldn’t hold up the next agency
who wants to use the infrastructure it’s already been paid for. Public is responsible for it, and I hope you
can honor that.
The other point I want to make is that there are a
couple of agencies, at least in my mind, there are agencies that ought to be
involved with some of the negotiations, not that they have the direct responsibility
or jurisdiction but, I would like to see the Water Management District and also
the Seaside Basin Adjudication Group in some way involved in some technical discussions
that you may have among staff because the fallout of all of this plan on REPOG
number one is the Monterey Peninsula.
You have a number of cities around here who are already represented, but
they don’t represent the water agency that is dominantly responsible for
that. So if there is a technical dialog
group or whatever that might be formed over the long haul, not necessarily in
the 30 days but in the long haul, that all the agencies are at the table and
that they can bring their interest and so on to be resolved. Otherwise you’re still talking about a kind
of left hand, right hand issue that won’t get resolved unless you’re all at the
same table talking about the same playing field, and I hope I encourage you to
do that too. Thank you.
Jan Shriner - I wonder if we might add to the motion that we
could have these filmed so that we could as a public see them on maybe the Monterey
County Government channel.
Jim Smith - I’m the District Manager for the California Water
Service, and I’m here just to kind of set the record straight. I keep hearing from a lot of people that why
isn’t Cal Water participating in this or the City of Salinas; and I’m here to
kind of set the record straight. I’ve
been in
Lou
Calcagno - We’re going to take two
votes, one of the Board members and then we’ll come back and take one of the Ad
Hoc Committee. So we got a total vote
here tonight. Are there any more
comments from anyone before we take the vote?
Does everyone understand the motion? When we mean 10 days we mean we’re going to
meet within that 10 days, so staff be prepared.
We’re going to set the date out and we’ll meet. It could even be possible that we’ll set the
ground rules and meet sometime this week, before the end. Today’s Monday, there are still four days
left. So it could be possible. The first time we meet, we don’t have to have
legal counsel with us; we can just draw up sort of the basic rules and
regulations that we’re going to meet with and how we’re going to proceed. Then we’ll determine who our legal counsel
will be at that meeting and proceed from there.
Are there any other comments?
Motion passed.
Lou
Calcagno - I feel comfortable that
we’re going to move forward and we’re going to put this thing together. I know that I’m going to do everything in my
power to make it happen, and I’m sure everyone else is committed. There’s no reason for it not to happen. Now as far as working with the other agencies
on the Monterey Peninsula, as soon as we go to a Public Hearing and we approve
this in 30 days when we come back in this room and take a vote and approve the
document, at that time we’ll start opening up to the public and we’ll have a
lot of public input.
Libby
Lou
Calcagno - I think it pretty well
included all the agreements that had to be made and in those agreements were
the wells agreements.
Meeting adjourned at
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